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Why Psychologists Are Infinitely More Dangerous Than Conspiracy Theorists
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, September 3, 2009
According to a Psychology Today hit piece written by psychologist John Gartner, people prone to thinking that powerful men might actually get together and plan to maintain and advance their power are borderline psychotics who are a danger to society. In reality, hundreds of years of history has taught us that psychologists routinely aid authoritarian regimes in enforcing tyrannical and inhumane policies while helping them crush political opposition by defining suspicion of authorities as a mental illness.
As we highlighted in our article yesterday, psychologists in the Soviet Union were used to stifle free speech by classifying skepticism and political opposition to the state as a mental illness, which is precisely the implication littered throughout Gartner’s crass hit piece.
In the former Soviet Union, psikhushkas — mental hospitals — were used by the state as prisons in order to isolate political prisoners, discredit their ideas, and break them physically and mentally. The Soviet state began using mental hospitals to punish dissidents in 1939 under Stalin.
According to official Soviet psychiatry and the Moscow Serbsky Institute at the time, “ideas about a struggle for truth and justice are formed by personalities with a paranoid structure.” Treatment for this special political schizophrenia included various forms of restraint, electric shocks, electromagnetic torture, radiation torture, lumbar punctures, various drugs — such as narcotics, tranquilizers, and insulin — and beatings. Anne Applebaum, author of Gulag: A History, indicates that at least 365 sane people were treated for “politically defined madness,” although she surmises there were many more.
The profession of psychology blossoms under tyrannical regimes, as is explored in Ulfried Geuter’s The Professionalization of Psychology in Nazi Germany. Under Hitler’s Third Reich, the relationship between the ruling Nazi thugs and psychologists was close and mutually beneficial. People like Nazi psychologist Robert Ritter, Ph. D. (pictured top) were instrumental in persecuting minorities and enforcing eugenicist policies of genocide.
“From Nazi Germany, South Africa, Russia and the former Yugoslavia, to Iraq today, psychiatry has been and/or remains a key player. In fact, the marriage between authoritarian government and psychiatry is as old as psychiatry itself,” writes Jan Eastgate, International President, Citizens Commission on Human Rights, “In the 1800s, Germany’s militaristic “Iron Chancellor,” Otto von Bismarck, utilized psychiatry to influence and control whole populations in order to fulfill his dreams of conquest through war.”
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The book reveals how, “From the 1950s onward not only Chinese dissidents but people who submitted petitions to the authorities have been detained by the police, examined by psychiatrists, and found to be criminally insane—or, if found mentally “normal,” designated as criminals to be cast into the prison system.”
An official Chinese police designation for those worthy of “psychiatric custody” cited by Munro lists people who write anti-government letters, make anti-government speeches or those who merely express opinions on important domestic and international affairs that could be considered anti-government.
But the use of psychologists in the pursuit of inhumane policies is not just resigned to tyrannical regimes of the first half of the 20th century.
Recent revelations surrounding the torture scandal highlight the role of psychologists in what the Physicians for Human Rights organization alleges amounted to “unlawful human experimentation” and torture on inmates at Guantánamo, Abu Ghraib, Bagram and other U.S. detention sites.
“PHR says health professionals participated at every stage in the development, implementation and legal justification of what it calls the CIA’s secret “torture programme,” reports the London Guardian.
Doctors and psychologists actively monitored CIA torture techniques and helped evaluate their effectiveness, a “violation of core ethical values” according to the American Medical Association and a flagrant abuse of the 1947 Nuremberg Code, which forbids experimentation on humans without their consent.
The CIA’s close relationship with psychologists and psychiatrists in conducting illegal torture programs stretches back decades.
“Historian Alfred W. McCoy has shed light in this area in his recent book A Question of Torture and in numerous articles and interviews,” writes Stephen Soldz. “He documents the decades-long CIA effort to utilized psychological expertise to develop forms of torture that could break down the personality of detainees, rendering them, it was hoped, incapable of withholding desired information. Many of these technique were utilized during the Vietnam conflict and in the various brutal U.S.-supported counterinsurgency campaigns in Latin American in the 1970s and 1980s.”
While Psychology Today’s John Gartner cites a single example of a “conspiracy theorist” who voiced support for Alex Jones entering Bohemian Grove armed with guns, and uses it to make the implication that “conspiracy thinking” is a major threat to society, documented history stretching back hundreds of years shows that psychologists, and particularly their tactic of classifying suspicion of authorities and “conspiracy thinking” as a mental illness, have played a key role in preserving the power of dictatorial elites and helping them to carry out inhumane practices while crushing free speech and legitimate political opposition.
RELATED: Psychology Today Hit Piece Labels Conspiracy Thinking A Psychotic Illness
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September 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Oh, give it a rest, Alex. You’re acting like a child over this.
Josh F. Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:44 am
They tried to make a case against him, why can he not show why they are full of shit? Which they are.
Patriot Portal Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Let us not forget that there are dangerous conspiracy theorists. Take Colin Powell for example, his delusional crackpot conspiracy theory of Saddam having weapons of mass destruction led the United States to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, end up with conservatively 5500 dead US soldiers, and resulted in our country’s bankruptcy.
The difference between Colin Powell, and your average Coast to Coast listener is the position of power.
If Gartner’s article had any validity to it whatsoever, then Colin Powell needs to be strapped to a gurney and given ECT for his delusions of Saddam having WMDs.
BREAKING - PSYCHOLOGISTS HELPED BUSH TORTURE PEOPLE Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/20…..ctors_role
Physicians for Human Rights: Psychologists’ Role in CIA Waterboarding “May Amount to Human Experimentation”…
A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has found that psychologists played a greater role than previously known in designing, implementing and legitimizing the Bush administration’s torture program. The recently declassified CIA Inspector General’s report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. The group says this “may amount to human experimentation.”
Tucker Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
You know, I’m getting sick of these trolls jumping on newly posted infowars stories and being first to write a comment—esp. dumbass shit about Alex (or whatever topic is at hand). So Dale Gribble—piss off.
Alex is relaying a first hand experience of a very disturbing trend in psychology, whereby psychologists misuse their power to judge someones mental state (and they have alot of power to do this–ever heard of ‘Baker Acting’ someone?)
I sued a former employer once, and lo and behold they found a psychologist to swear at trial, on the stand, under oath, that I confessed to him that I drank a fifth of scotch a day before showing up to work. Total lie.
The ranks of psychologists are completely infiltrated with hacks and money whores.
Alex does a great service in telling you to beware this potential trap.
Q. How is the gov gonna take you down and round you up?
A. Through a psychological evaluation…..
Um.. Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
First off… Saddam himself admitted to having something he wasn’t supposed to. He also refused to let the U.N. look at his weaponry. There were 2-3 months that they had to move or hide anything that could have been a WMD.
I’m not saying there were, I’m not saying there weren’t. I”m just stating that you’re full of shit. lol.
In fact, Mr. Colin Powell had some huge issue with this I believe.. although I don’t think the media covered it much.
jester2012 Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
First off…. Donald Rumsfeld (sp?) himself shook hands with Saddam after the U.S. sold him chem/bio weapons, which he used against the Kurds and Iran I think. He was then forced to dismantle them. Hans Blix said no wmd’s in Iraq, no wmd’s in Iran. According to you, the U.N. Weapons Inspectors and IAEA hire people who have to idea what they’re doing. Colin Powell lied, whether he had an issue with the lie is not the point. Still can’t figure out your point.
bob Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Um.. you are an idiot who believes anything you hear on television, fuck off.
Patriot Portal Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 5:45 am
Um..
You sound like the conspiracy theorist that Dr. Gartner warned us about. You are “immune to evidence”. All of the evidence shows that Saddam having WMDs was false.
Looks like we will have to prescribe Zyprexa or Seroquel for you to keep you out of conspiratorial type of thinking.
Um... Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 5:47 am
hahaha! That’s hilarious!
I’m glad to see that the trolls are out early today.
And actually, the only “evidence” that there is was collected after the 2-3 months. But, keep dreaming!
Saint Marley Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
I think this is an important article. It shown that intellect untempered by compassion is the most dangerous threat to humanity. That is something worth thinking about.
IamLonefrog Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Want a scary version of what they are up to?
Check it at your own risk……….
http://www.geocities.com/elect...../nsa1.html
1776blues Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
This poor excuse of a psychologist John Gartner may be able to convince people who take the drugs he prescribes, but he can’t convince people who refuse to believe the lies their Government tell them.
Take a pill Gartner, be happy and full of shit!
NKVD_J_W Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
It’s time to start killing J-ws. You all know I’m right.
FreeForever Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:49 am
I have to agree…
Thomas Morton Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
LOL, “acting like a child?”
A couple more amateur psychologists.
Tony Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Get a radio show, do it for like 10 years, and let’s see how you handle the pressure.
You take it for granted, and whine when Jones or Bermas go off on a tangent, well, he also interviewed some guests and got some good information out there – ask yourself, besides posting a rubbish comment in a board more people will scroll by than read, what have you done today to inform or help people?
Hmmmmmm…. keeping your favorite adult site in business by paying your monthly subscription fee doesn’t count.
Solar Absolution Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
ZING! And I couldn’t agree with you more.
Nutjob Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
My neighbors are so “crazy” they never have to work as long as they live. They never have to buy food or pay taxes or worry about dental/health care. They sit around and ge stonned all day while doing odd jobs under the table for money.
Deception brought to you by western medicine. If I don’t find a job soon.. I’m going “crazy” too.
Seal Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Try Planting Some Winter Garlic, get your friends into healthy foods garnening.
Use all resources completely. In example, when I buy a package of(bulk) ground beef, I cut up the plastic shopping bags for to wrap and freeze the portions of ground.
I save all plastic containers, washing them and resueing them for my meals when I go out, or as bowls and glass pickle jars as drinking glasses.
Get the biggest bang for your buck.
If your friends use pot let em cut their pot with some shake, and concentrate on establishing winter food supply, and take advantage of every job that comes along.
I cannot imagine there would be much incentive or ability to progress or save living in the cities. At least in the countrysides, a person can grow some food and take the odd deer.
Remember hank Jr. “I can skin a buck, can run a trapline,…country folk can survive…”
Seal Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Thats “gardening” nasty laptop keyboards not made for a man size hands.
wilde Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
You offer some sound advice here, but unless that beef you’re eating is “certified organic”, I would be hesitant to classify it as a “healthy food”. As if the hormones, anti-biotics, pesticides, GMO’s and vaccines fed to the animals aren’t harmful enough, that distinguished government watchdog , the FDA, recently approved the marketing of cloned meat and dairy, without the requirement to be labelled as such.
I think it’s safe to say that if the average meat-eater moved to the outback, with no alternative but to kill and slaughter an animal for food, most would quickly turn to vegetarianism. Might be a good time to start the transition now.
Drifter/ ex mental patient Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I GOT THEM LOW-DOWN TARDIVE DISKENESIA BLUES. Can anybody spare a little cogentin…?
Pere Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:03 pm
stonned? at least learn to spell before you degrade people who enjoy weed maybe you should try some yourself it’ll take the edge off
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Jones got smoked by an educated mind, and now he’s acting like a petulant child.
Read what was said on the first page of the article:
“When I stopped him to ask for evidence the government is practicing eugenics, he pointed to a national security memorandum. But I found the document to be a bland policy report.”
…
“When I confronted Jones with my reading of the report, he became pugnacious, launching into a diatribe against psychologists as agents of social control.”
And he’s still at it.
Anyone who has confronted Jones (or any of his sidekicks like the Watsons) know exactly what Gartner is talking about.
They present some misread/misquoted “evidence” and when you point out how wrong they are, rather than debating the issue, suddenly you become an “NWO plant” or “disinfo agent” or “government shill”. That is NOT the sign of a healthy mind.
If you read the entire article, it almost seems that Gartner has studied Jones for years, because he described Jones incredibly accurately, based on my observations of his past actions. Hell I could probably find several examples of everything Gartner said in the archives of this site!
What I find incredible about Jones and his mates is that they claim to believe that a globe spanning organisation that has existed and strengthened over hundreds of years and is powerful enough to start wars and massive economic turmoil – isnt powerful enough to silence Jones and his mates!
Seriosuly! If the “NWO” were anywhere near as powerful as Jones claims, he would have been dead a long time ago, and most of us would never have heard of him. Yet somehow this superevil, superpower organisation is unable to handle one loudmouth with a loudhailer?
Sorry, I don’t buy it.
However, I actually disagree with Gartner. I don’t think Jones has a mental illness at all. I think Jones is a cynical “entertainer” who has picked his “art” (conspiracy theorising) and is making a living from it. I doubt even he believes most of what he says.
Just be sure to pick up a copy of his latest DVD and join the infowar!
CO Had Enough Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Karmakaze- It’s not rocket science, it takes a curmudgeon like AJ to get on the air day after day and fight the NWO and defend the innocence of this world against NWO butt pirates like you who want to cornhole humanity.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
It most certainly isn’t anything approaching ANY kind of science. It’s all bollocks.
“it takes a curmudgeon like AJ to get on the air day after day and fight the NWO”
“Fighting” presumes someone is fighting back. No one has done ANYTHING to Jones but call him what he is – a lying nut job. Why is that? If there truly IS a war, how come Jones is still breathing?
“NWO butt pirates like you who want to cornhole humanity.”
You seem to have a fixation on homosexual sex. Do you often think about “cornholing” and other male on male sexual acts? You also seem to have a strong man-crush for Jones going on. Maybe there is some latent homsexual tendencies that you are suppressing and that is why you are so angry?
But I’m not a psychologist, so its just speculation…
wtf Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Why are you here? Speculate on this – fuckoff!
Saint Marley Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
I would agree that the ” hundreds of years” although not quite incorrect is hyperbole, considering that although the beginnings of psychology go back 150 years, its establishment as tool of political opression really began in the 20century. But that is a fine point. The heart of the article is warning that uncontrolled, and unchecked by conscience psychology had proven its propensity for incredible inhumanity and evil.
In relation to the Psychology today article, extremely short shallow and mere conjecture unsupported by any scientific study, a disgrace to his own science and nothing more than a personal smear.
joey Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
NWO cannot kill every single messenger. There cover would be blown if they just went around killing conspiracy theorists, that would be too obvious. Besides, the NWO has killed many of people in the past that have stood against them. MLK, JFK, GHANDI, BOB MARLEY, HENDRIX, JOPLIN, HICKS, ETC.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
AHAHAHA See how delusional you can be?
“Besides, the NWO has killed many of people in the past that have stood against them. MLK, JFK, GHANDI, BOB MARLEY, HENDRIX, JOPLIN, HICKS, ETC.”
All those people were far more famous than Jones, and yet the “NWO killed them” but Jones, who practically no one knows is somehow immune?
There is that grandiosity thing again…
reconmarine Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
The orders must come from the Crown. License to kill and all that.
Harry Potter Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm
I doubt the NWO killed Joplin, unless you mean indirectly, by dealing the drugs that lead to her overdose. I tend to blame the government drug dealers for the glamorizing of drugs through hollywood and the music industry, that has lead to the deaths by overdose of young people who might otherwise have resisted the use of drugs. Had I not been from New York city where I received drug education in the first and second grade, I may have tried dangerous drugs. I still got in lots of trouble with alcohol. Nothing is more terrifying to me than the thought of being falsely accused of being insane.
DudeWTF401 Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 9:40 am
I agree that SOME things Alex says is far fetched or over the top – but anyone who takes his word as always 100% accurate – should rethink – he’s human and prone to emotion and mistakes. I think the best he’s done is wake people up to the fact the American government IS corrupt and we SHOULD be paying more attention. I always said you don’t have to believe in a NWO or whatever else – just open your eyes and look at what the government is doing. So, if all Alex does is wake up more patriots – then he is doing a great job (whether directly or indirectly).
PrivateSi Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Come on, it’s 2 men in a SPAT, TIT for TAT!! Pots calling the kettles black!! 2 different language styles – PSYCHOLOGICAL BULLYING using 2 different tactics. Actually, in this case, very similar tactics… Take a STEP BACK & think WHY did Jones agree to the interview. Both parties gained. Both have products to sell and IDEALS to promote (EYE-DEALS which in term promote DEALS).
I believe in TREATY & CONCENSUS (PEACE DEALS) rather than WAR. I prefer the Infowar TO MILITARY WAR!!
gar Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 11:26 am
obviously #1 cant read as it a piece done by Paul Joseph Watson from Prison Planet.com, not AJ. Why are you tageting one person like he is the only one that thinks like this, if you can’t read, don’t blame us for educating ourselves further than what we are told we have to know from schools. The slaves where kept from reading because they where afraid they would know how poor the elitists treated them. oh look same elitist are doing the same thing again, wow, what a concept.
revolution begins Reply:
September 5th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
John Gartner should be shot on the spot…. one more name for the list !!!!!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
i don’t want to sound like a know it all, but i said this about psychologists three months ago.
for example, if you tell an american psychologist that you hate the west they will label you “sick”.
if you tell a middle eastern psychologist that you hate the west they will label you “normal”.
Tony Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Yes, and thus psychology becomes relative to a standard, which of course is set by the ruling elite in which ever country you are in.
Sociobiology does a much better job explaining human behavior than psychology does anyway. Psychology is sort of an arcane science like alchemy that doesn’t seem like it will last much longer unless they find a new purpose. Selling drugs and shilling for the state seems to be keeping them in business for now!
Seal Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
That is very true, Tony, very true…
CO Had Enough Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
When you’re in school studying psychology, they call it an infant science, which is a euphemism; it’s more like a bull shit science. I dropped out of graduate school as soon as it became apparent that it was ineffectual horse shit and that you don’t learn much more than the useless crap they teach you in undergrad. Psychology Today is a joke to people who work in the field, it is pop bull c. and is a worthless rag to place in waiting rooms, any one that works for it is also consummately a joke so AJ should not feel very offended, he might actually take pride in what those jokers have to say. There is potential for the field, along the lines of what Eric horse man Muller was saying on the show today. The potential for the field lies in altered states of consciousness and research into ‘The Variety of Religious Experience’ as William James wrote about. If you ever find yourself considering seeking a therapist; go out and buy a couch and a two hundred lb. bag of horseshit and lay on the couch and talk to the sack of shit and save yourself some money, or learn to pray instead.
Tony Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Classic! At least the horseshit can go into the garden after I’m “better.”
Drifter/ ex mental patient Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
If you tell a shrink there`s a war between good & evil, you will get an immediate prescription for lithium.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
And you should take it, because irrationality can lead to very dangerous territory.
Drifter/ ex mental patient Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Anyone who wants to see the logical result of American psychiatry, google: Anclote Manor midievel house of horrors —-(happy reading)
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Yes do that. And You will see the state was sued and settled for $150,000 because the states own investigation found the allegations to be false. No charges were ever fiuled against the hospital or anyone involved.
So your “evidence” against psychologists is actually evidence aginst the same kind of lying Jones does. Thanks for bringing it to my attention
Tesla Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 2:40 am
Then why did they settle if they were so innocent? BTW, for all we know, you work for Common Purpose. You keep screwing up all your arguments and winning people over to our side. Thanks!
bob Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Karmakaze, you shall get what you deserve.
Um... Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Yes, you are an idiot who believes anything he sees on T.V.
Friggin moron. I don’t WATCH T.V.
I actually RESEARCH my info. What do you do?
Harry Potter Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Karmakaze might like some involuntary observation for 72 hrs. Maybe some shock treatment?
off_thegrid Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 4:02 am
Karmakaze, Fuckoff Limey.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
This is todays topic. Crazy losers who manipulate clueless people…. hmm sounds like someone I know! Yes there is a war on for your mind, and Alex Jones has convinced you dolts there are only two sides!
Josh F. Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:46 am
You’re right. There are multiple sides. The Elites, The apathetic crowd, the Patriots, and the idiots.
I’d be more specific on exactly what you mean by “you dolts”. There are many people here who have differing opinions.
Like, IMO, you’re a troll.
Pere Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 am
LISTEN TROLL CONSUME
That is all you people really do- if it weren’t, alex wouldn’t be on the air.
Pere Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 am
I’m here for entertainment- because this shit is SO funny!
Pere's Daddy Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Pere listen to me, you are a dolt.
Take a shot of whiskey, followed by a shot from the colt.
If you choose to so dare, end up like Steve Mcnair!
Solar Absolution Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
since when? rofl obvious troll is obvious.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
Oh, give it a rest, Alex. You’re acting like a child over this!
Tony Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Get a radio show, do it for like 10 years, and let’s see how you handle the pressure.
You take it for granted, and whine when Jones or Bermas go off on a tangent, well, he also interviewed some guests and got some good information out there – ask yourself, besides posting a rubbish comment in a board more people will scroll by than read, what have you done today to inform or help people?
Hmmmmmm…. keeping your favorite adult site in business by paying your monthly subscription fee doesn’t count.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 am
Wake up oh my sheepy brothers >
LISTEN TROLL CONSUME
That is all you really do- it’s what keeps Alex on the air.
Johnny Canuck Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Dribble, dribble, blather, blather stoopid!
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
That’s the most accurate comment I’ve ever seen from a Jones supporter. That sums up your (and their) beliefs succinctly!
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
Yup..the crazy’s in charge tell the conspiracy theorists they are nutz. It all makes sense now.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
I’m a schizophrenic…and so am i.
My dog has symptoms of schizophrenia (barking at himself)…and so does my dog.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
you’re are right on this one alex, i side with you. let me give everybody another example:
if you tell an american psychologist that you don’t believe in women’s rights, they will label you a “deranged nut”
if you tell a psychologist in the middle east that you don’t believe in women’s rights, they will label you “normal”
let’s face it…the west is turning into feminist empire and they are itching to gang rape(with dildos) the eastern men
John Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Really? That’s what a psychologist would say? Right.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
So Alex Jones got labeled as a nutcase by PsychologyToday and now AJ is doing the same type of attacks.
Jack Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
John Gartner doesn’t have any research to back his outlandish claim, AJ does.
Thats the difference.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Bullshit, he doesn’t.
He presented evidence on the very first page of the article!
Jones made a claim about a document – when confronted about his errors regarding said document – he went off on a diatribe against not just the person involved but all psychologists, and he is still at it.
There are a few cliche’s that are appropriate here:
“Me thinks he doth protest too much”
“Where there is smoke, there is fire”
and
“Alex Jones is full of shit”
Tesla Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 1:39 am
You don’t make any sense, your whole argument is just ad hominem attack patterns. Please be coherent when you troll. Thanks.
Elijah Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Karmakaze, have you read this document for yourself? Instead of believing what others tell you about a certain subject, one must read and obtain the facts.
>>> Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Psychology Today would be labeled as a gang of scam artists
jeff Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
SUE PSCHOLOGY TODAY FOE HATE CRIMES
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:45 am
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t seem to see Alex’s name attributed to this piece… so why blame him for something authored by another? Because it is on his website? I know from experience that the opinions of contributors do not always match those of the site owner (I contribute to a friend’s website, occasionally, and I’m far more “conspiracy minded” than she is.)
Josh F. Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:53 am
Very true. LoL Should have read who wrote it first as well. I guess that I would assume if he allowing an article to be posted on his website that he endorses it.
TX Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I have administrative access to my friend’s website, she does not screen my submissions… and even when she does disagree, she takes it up with me privately, and we discuss the facts until she sees things my way (J/K.) Seriously, though, the point is that my submissions are attributed to me; just as this submission is attributed to Paul Joseph Watson, not Alex Jones.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
This site is owned and operated by the Watsons – not Alex Jones. He puts his name on here and sells his items through here, so he endorses their views.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Becasue the Watsons are not just another contributer, they are close business associates of Jones because they run this site for him (he is too busy yelling at Parliament through a loudhailer for his next DVD).
You may be right that Jones may not agree with everything the Watson’s say – but it hasn’t risen to the level of wanting his name taken off their site.
Tesla Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 1:43 am
Ok, we get it. We’re all losers and for some reason you’re here to convert us to incoherent thinking. Why you wasting your time here? You don’t have a chance to beat anyone here with your pretzel logic. We all have facts. You have nothing to add to the discussion… except piss-poor spelling.
off_thegrid Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 4:08 am
Fuckoff shill.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 am
As soon as the psychs label someone a nut I know the person they labeled is doing a good job.
Keep it up Alex!
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 am
Way to go Alex! Honestly, let them say what they want about you. Psychiatrists don’t do anything other than pass out conformity medication…
I think that the majority of them should be put on trial just as some of our dear elected officials…
I mean, isn’t giving drugs to kids supposed to be a felony? lmao
wilde Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Ordinarily, this would be a crime against humanity, but when it’s legalized by the medical profession, it’s known as “health care”.
http://health.usnews.com/artic.....peans.html
college thug Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
i cant stop snortin ritalin
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 am
you people are inferior. “let us not believe outrageous conspiricy theories”.
Jack Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
The grandson of “the most evil man in the world”…Aleister Crowley, said that…
his name is George W Bush
jm Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
hey david, go right a memoir.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Hey jim, learn to spell “write”
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Denial is a mental illness too. And I reckon being overly concerned about falling over a cliff is better than denying it exists and trying to walk over it.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Seriously, deal with the issues. This isn’t about Alex Jones, its about everyone depending on a corrupt government, regardless of who’s running it, and not depending on our selves.
We are slaves, regardless of who the slave master is, and we must free ourselves.
When someone kicks in your door and attacks you, you cannot mince words, bicker over the assailant’s origins or intentions, you must only FIGHT to survive and preserve what is rightfully yours.
You people that want to mire this in racism, personalities, petty jealousy, and sore-ass-ness need to grow up, get on your two feet and start living like a free man. Freedom requires that you take full responsibility for yourself and your destiny. If you cannot do that, all the plans, guns, and blood in the world will not save you.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
And yet Alex Jones blames all his and the world’s problems on a shadowy group of “illuminati” who are trying to create a “New World Order”. And so, it seems do you.
Why don’t YOU take responsibility for your own problems and quit blaming “them” for everything?
St. Michael Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Instead of dumping your crap all over this board, why don’t you go home to your illuminati masters and suck them off? They miss you.
Pere Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
To take responsibility for thier own problems and quit blaming “them” for everything would just be too much. why do you think they are so eager for the end of civilization? because its not working out so well for them! ROFL at them!!
freethinker Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Amen.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
What is it with you lot and the homosexual fixation?
I think Gartner may have to add “latent homosexual tendencies” to his diagnosis
reconmarine Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
As cattle/chattel walking to the abattoir, you are right, it is only our fault. Blame the victim, especially if you caused and benefited from the crime.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Further proof that this site allows differing opinions, which do not always reflect the views of the webmaster… all the trolling posts that have been allowed to remain.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Bollocks
Ive have had posts censored on this site MANY MANY times. What you take as tolerance is actually better described as laziness. They just miss a lot of the contradictory stuff.
But you can be damn sure they don’t miss the evidence that proves them wrong (its usually gone within hours).
St. Michael Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Illuminati sucking troll!
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Wow, still thinking about homosexual sex I see.
Got you hot and bothered, has it?
Pere Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Well now there are just too many to deal with. if you guys would buy some more t-shirts, then they’ll be able to hire more people to police the trolls LOL ROFL at al lof you!!
Tesla Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 1:59 am
Censored? Who says this site has a constitution that guarantees your free speech in the first place? Secondly, you have no proof, you’re just implying things to poison the well. Why do you bother? You’re not going to make friends here, and you’re not going to convert anyone to your delusional way of thinking. You’re a loser troll.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.”
Mahatma Gandhi
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
great article!
“I think that the majority of them should be put on trial just as some of our dear elected officials…”
.. seems to kind for what most of them really deserve for what they have done or are still getting away with doing.
LovelyRita Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
If there was any justice in this world, Bush and his cronies would be behind bars now, along with the disease doctors who drug our kids for profit.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
So you claim not to be a nut job – but based on the retarded writings of a Watson seem to be making death threats against psychologists in general?
Thank you for proving Gartner’s point.
St. Michael Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Illuminati sucking troll….. you must have lockjaw by now lol.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Wow, thats three posts where all you can do is talk about homosexual oral sex.
You might want to seek professional help for that.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Nano Thermite chips (high tech explosives) have been found and positively identified in the WTC dust from 9/11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....c&NR=1 This psychologist guy can blather on and on like the fool he is. Who cares what he says?
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
First of all – nano thermite is not an explosive – if it even exists.
An explosive explodes – thermite burns. There is a vast difference.
But don’t let the facts get in the way of your delusion!
St. Michael Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Go home troll and bend over for your masters…
Sam Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
He is right though, thermite doesnt expode. It just reacts incredibly fast and melts through anything with a comparable melting point.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Thanks for not being a tard.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Here’s another outrageous conspiracy “theory” . . .
“Who Created Orthodox Medicine?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOAyZDd8ekA
(start at minute 5:25)
Dr. Russell Blaylock:
“Who created orthodox medicine? Where did that come from?
“Well, it actually came from the Rockefeller Foundation back in 1901.
“The Rockefellers at the time . . . because of the Standard Oil scandals, no one wanted to be called a Rockefeller.
“Everybody hated all the Rockefellers. And so his friend, Reverend Gates, went to John D. Rockefeller, Sr. and told him, he said, “Well, here’s a way we can repair your reputation.” And he gave him a good example. He said, “There was this man who everybody hated . . . and he started giving money out for all sorts of philanthropic enterprises, and soon people forgot all of the bad things.” . . .
“So the first thing, because Gates’ father was a physician, and John D. Rockefeller’s father was a quack snake-oil salesmen, he said, “Let’s form the Rockefeller Institute of Medical Research.” And so they created this in 1901. . . .
“Rockefeller owned what was called the drug trust: that’s the major drug manufacturing firms all over the world: Merck Pharmaceuticals, Lederle, all of these . . . pharmaceutical companies . . .
“And of course, the aim was to remove all nutrition, references to nutritional type treatments, from the medical schools. They closed down half the medical schools in the United States. There were 165 medical schools at the time.
“Well, he closed half of them. Then he had his “anointed” medical schools which he poured his money into, appointed the professors from his own stock of professors.
“And so they created an educational system that taught the things he wanted taught.”
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:16 pm
My history books describe Hippocrates as the “father of medecine” and is the source of the “Hippocratic Oath”…
I dodn’t know Hippocrates was around in 1901. I thought he had been dead for a couple thousand years by then. Learn something new every day… not.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Hey Gribble, Axlerod’s waiting for his morning hummer…get crakin’ you troll…
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Seriosuly – more homsexual sex references?
This is definitely becomeing a disturbing trend.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/20.....ctors_role
Physicians for Human Rights: Psychologists’ Role in CIA Waterboarding “May Amount to Human Experimentation”
A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has found that physicians and psychologists played a greater role than previously known in designing, implementing and legitimizing the Bush administration’s torture program. The recently declassified CIA Inspector General’s report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. The group says this “may amount to human experimentation.”
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/20…..ctors_role
Physicians for Human Rights: Psychologists’ Role in CIA Waterboarding “May Amount to Human Experimentation”
A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has found that physicians and psychologists played a greater role than previously known in designing, implementing and legitimizing the Bush administration’s torture program. The recently declassified CIA Inspector General’s report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. The group says this “may amount to human experimentation.” .
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/20…..ctors_role
Physicians for Human Rights: Psychologists’ Role in CIA Waterboarding “May Amount to Human Experimentation”
A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has found that physicians and psychologists played a greater role than previously known in designing, implementing and legitimizing the Bush administration’s torture program. The recently declassified CIA Inspector General’s report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. The group says this “may amount to human experimentation.” ..
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/20…..ctors_role
Physicians for Human Rights: Psychologists’ Role in CIA Waterboarding “May Amount to Human Experimentation”
A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has found that physicians and psychologists played a greater role than previously known in designing, implementing and legitimizing the Bush administration’s torture program. The recently declassified CIA Inspector General’s report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. The group says this “may amount to human experimentation.”
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/20…..ctors_role
Physicians for Human Rights: Psychologists’ Role in CIA Waterboarding “May Amount to Human Experimentation”
A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has found that physicians and psychologists played a greater role than previously known in designing, implementing and legitimizing the Bush administration’s torture program. The recently declassified CIA Inspector General’s report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. The group says this “may amount to human experimentation.”…..
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/20…..ctors_role
Physicians for Human Rights: Psychologists’ Role in CIA Waterboarding “May Amount to Human Experimentation”
A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has found that physicians and psychologists played a greater role than previously known in designing, implementing and legitimizing the Bush administration’s torture program. The recently declassified CIA Inspector General’s report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. The group says this “may amount to human experimentation.”…………
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/20…..ctors_role
Physicians for Human Rights: Psychologists’ Role in CIA Waterboarding “May Amount to Human Experimentation”.
A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has found that physicians and psychologists played a greater role than previously known in designing, implementing and legitimizing the Bush administration’s torture program. The recently declassified CIA Inspector General’s report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. The group says this “may amount to human experimentation.”
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/20…..ctors_role
Physicians for Human Rights: Psychologists’ Role in CIA Waterboarding “May Amount to Human Experimentation”
A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has found that psychologists played a greater role than previously known in designing, implementing and legitimizing the Bush administration’s torture program. The recently declassified CIA Inspector General’s report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. The group says this “may amount to human experimentation.”
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/20…..ctors_role
Physicians for Human Rights: Psychologists’ Role in CIA Waterboarding “May Amount to Human Experimentation”.
A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has found that psychologists played a greater role than previously known in designing, implementing and legitimizing the Bush administration’s torture program. The recently declassified CIA Inspector General’s report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. The group says this “may amount to human experimentation.”
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
just go and see how psycology had it’s beginings
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
i’ve always prefered conspiracy theorists anyway!
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
You don know “obsession” is a psychological abnormality, right?
So far I have seen three people complaining about being labelled nuts by psychologists whose screen names seem to suggest the diagnosis is accurate:
“kesObsessed” and “insanity” and the topper “Drifter/ ex mental patient”.
Guys, if you don’t want to be seen as nut jobs – bragging about it isnt the best way to go about it
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
People, they have so much technology behind what they are doing now that they can torture right in your very own homes from remote, satellite.
They use your own electrical wiring and speakers, all your appliances, your tvs, digital recorders, your phones and cell phones. Your very own light bulbs for the LORD Jesus Christ’s sake wake up.
We will need to live back in the dark ages again to stop them from trying to take control of our minds and our bodies. If they put into practice against all of you what they have been doing to me, I really hope you all have the Holy Spirit within you to defend you, otherwise you don’t stand a chance, unless you have a very strong will power and constitution.
They really like going after your private parts. They are sick, demented, preverted human beings, or wait, worse than animals in my book.
Alex Jones, take my advice and start monitoring how much electricity they are juicing through you at your radio station and at your home. They are more than likely targeting you, and compiling a list of everyone on here.
Also, watch your utility poles. You start seeing men climbing them and weird things start happening to your body, you will know you have just become a victim.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
AHAHAHAHAH
NUT JOB ALERT! AWOOGA AWOOGA!
Seriosuly dude, get an education… or medication…
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
“They really like going after your private parts.”
LOL there it is agian. This sexual fixation being displayed by so many Jones supporters HAS to be part of the condition
Tesla Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 2:04 am
You can’t spell, genius. So you aren’t THAT bright… quit congratulating yourself on wins you haven’t scored.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Oh.. I forgot. They also use your water pipes and have this ability to send reverbration from the ground. They litterly shake my whole house when they send the sound waves.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Those are trucks and cars…
OF DOOM!
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Well at least Alex has changed his radio banner to have him look like a Fox News presenter instead of a serial rapist on ice.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
AHAHAHAHAHA Zing!
Although, aren’t the two terms interchangable?
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
“While we fix this problem, why don’t you all just sit there and talk to your various selves”. Jerry Garcia to an audience at a Grateful Dead concert (rough quote). Anybody can be a shrink.
PrivateSi Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I prefer to call them DAEMONS & ANGELS!!!
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
DAEMONS & ANGELS would indeed have been a better name that Grateful Dead..
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Hi All.
Take a look at this, Psychiatrists on psychiatrists : http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=1884
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Hmmm…. From your link:
“Do psychiatrists really know anything about the mind?
Bruce Wiseman, CCHR Spokesman – from the booklet “Psychiatry and the Creation of Senseless Violence””
From the CCHR:
“CCHR was founded in 1969 by the Church of Scientology”
You expect me to believe THEM?
You really ARE nuts.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Hi All.
Psychiatrists And Professors Are Lobbying To Normalize And Decriminalize Pedophilia :
http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=2126
And these people control our systems as they ‘train’ all operatives under NLP.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Bollocks – Reisman is a lying nut job who fails at everything she tries. Don’t believe a word she says.
Tesla Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 2:05 am
Just like you!
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Hi All.
A great report by Mr Watson
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
goodbye amerikkka.lol
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Here. Abovetopsecret.com has this on their website that supports what I just told you all. Time to take notice of what they are actuallly doing up in space, other than hide their preparations for new living arrangements.
What kind of scientific tests are they really conducting up there? And you know what, YOUR PAYING FOR IT!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/.....498015/pg1
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Hi All.
ljb Says:
You are bang on there sir, they are indeed recreating what they did pre – deluge and are making home on the Moon and some say Mars so they can watch the firework display below.
Then they will return as they did in the event known as the Tower of Babel, and disperse the survivors to suit there control needs, of copurse if it gets that far….
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Yeah, and you aren’t nuts at all!
The Moon and Mars bases are proof of that!
Wait…
Sam Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
lol yeah. theres so much to do on the moon and mars. Once they’ve watched the firework display they lose power. there will be sod all to do. nice one.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Psycologist are liers rapist robers working for organized wormwood bankers. Their wicked labor is
enless for our distruction. They recomend the use of drugs and jail. They are deeply imbedded into our wicked wicked court system. Those whom lie to you will lie about you.
roaddog6 Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
I like that. Those who lie to you lie about you. Couldn’t agree more. Liars have their own agenda, and it ain’t in your best interest.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Exactly… so why do you hero worship Alex Jones, who has been proven to be a liar many times over?
roaddog6 Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
karm—I agree with about 90% of what a.j. says. The 10% is the religious side I don’t agree with. But out of the 90%, a.j. has never lied to us. The 10% is just his opinion.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Bullshit.
I personally have called him and his mates out several times for BLATANT lies printed on this very site. Not personal opinion but intentional misquotes of other people or source material.
Jones and his crew work on one often true assumption – if you lie about something and link to the truth, 99% of people won’t bother checking the link to ensure that what Jones said was there was actually there. Currently you can see the same thing on the ADF page regarding a court case. They make several claims in their press release and as support for their argument link to a PDF – which totally disproves everything they claim.
I have a nice collection of deleted posts where I’ve demonstrated that the Watson’s and Jones are serial liars.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Interstingly.. several of my replies on thisn thread seem to have disappeared…
I though Alex et al. didn’t do that sort of thing?
Tesla Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 2:07 am
That’s like us asking why you love your dad even though he’s a convicted pedophile.
PrivateSi Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Don’t fall into the trap. Psychology is a subject. Psychologists is the most abstract term applied to some1 who’s studied psychology. It’s like saying HATE all the RELIGIOUS when there actually a few good religious people out there! Lol, the last comment was just a quip. I’m only against a few ASPECTS of each religion, not the ENTIRE RELIGION!
Psychiatrists on the other hand… wield a double-edged sword and have FAR TOO MUCH POWER. They are effectively (by proxy and sometimes completely) JUDGE, JURY, JAILER & TORTURER!! Though also HEALER!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I am not a fucking conspiracy theorist.
Why do we let then label us. This article doesn’t even matter (though it is informative) since they have already framed our postition in the argument. Conspiracy Theorists VS Psychologists. Who do you think the moron public will assume is more legitimate? C’mon…
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
You aren’t?
So you don’t ascribe to any theories that suggest a conspiracy? So no NWO, Illuminati, Government Mind Control for you eh?
Or do you just object to an accurate label because it makes you sound… nutty?
PrivateSi Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 5:44 am
The ‘New World Order’ has been here officially since the League of Nationas. Iluminati were a historical secret society. ATTEMPTED Mind Control has been with us since the DAWN OF INTELLIGENCE!!
Broadcast media (started since the first cylindrical & tablet based scroll printers) have been in the ‘mind control’ game for millenia. Combined drug & psychological mind-control has been around since shamans & preachers commanded their followers whilst they were on psychotropics.
The fact that CIA, KGB et al spent millions honing these skills (using science: drugs & psychology) is about as surprising as, I dunno, maybe a multi-national drug firm employing psychologists to market their products – and increasingly – using the gov. preachers & MSM NEWS to sell for them too.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Psychologists are bat shit crazy!
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Excellent article, but citing the president of the CCHR, a Scientology front group as an authority, tends to loose credibility.
Pete
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Thanks for pointing out that this nut job cites another nut job as evidence that his nutty beliefs aren’t nutty.
Tesla Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 2:14 am
Thanks for spending so much time here keeping us company in the so-called funny farm, Mr. Internet Toughguy. You wouldn’t have the balls to get in any of our faces in real life.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
*****************************
__________ALEX____________
__WATCH THE CAINE MUTINY____
_________THEN__________
___GET SOME HELP !!!_______
*******************************
PrivateSi Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
The Caine Mutiny is a STORY – It is not based on FACTS. Applies in a few ways though…
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
There could be a reason why the majority of students in britain do media studies and pshycology as degrees. If the so called nwo order win they will be very usefull idiots.
mike Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Most of them dont make it onto media studies as there are about 400 students chasing every place/media job. As far as I can tell from people I know, a lot drop out of Psychology as it doesnt actually make logical sense (as it’s an incompleted subject) and is therefore impossible to understand.
Sam Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:32 pm
I did it to A level, its complete crap – and I got a B grade so its not like I failed it. Doing REAL science you learn to know the difference.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Why no link to the piece?
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Oops I forgot to mention the student loans and on average £15,000 pounds in debt after leaving university…
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Psychiatry played this exact role in the ex-Soviet Block; anyone who had independent thoughts, and questioned the Soviet System must be crazy and needed psychitric treatments. This is how the Soviet System sent scored of thinkers to spend their lives in horrible Pschiatric Hospitals.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Time to renew your prescription, and don’t forget your flu shot. You wouldn’t want to go insane.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
How does that make you feel?
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Psychologist: What’s bothering you today?
Patient: Oh, I don’t know, John P. Holdren – Obama’s Science Czar – the guy who calls for forced sterilization and abortion, is calling for spraying harmful chemicals and heavy metals in the earth’s atmosphere.
Psychologist: I see. And how does that make you feel?
Patient: It angers me beyond descrption.
Psychologist: Why does it anger you? Where is this rage coming from?
Patient: I have children and a wife. I don’t want a government eugenics program implemented on my family.
Psychologist: Eugenics doesn’t exist. You are delusional. I have drugs for you.
Patient: But Doc, are you saying John P. Holdren doesn’t exist and that he is not Obama’s Science Czar? And that he didn’t call for forced abortions and sterilizations. Here is Holdren’s book if you’d like to read it yourself.
Psychologist: I’ve read Holdren’s book and it is merely a dull policy textbook. Now take this drugs you are crazy.
Psychologist:
An European Voize Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Patient: Doctor! people always ignore me!
Psychologist:
THE NEXT, PLEASE!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
psychology has taught me how to better separate fact from fiction. modern psychology is much different than it used to be. we are not dangerous. in fact, we are essential to have on your side to help your cause. psychology stresses the methods in obtaining accurate and true information, and proper research methods.
mike Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
That my friend is the nub of the problem. It’s all research grants and no solutions.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
and psychologists cannot prescribe drugs.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Shush!
You’re giving away one of the best laughs here – Jones and his mates don’t even know what a psychologist is nor how one differs from a psychiatrist!
wtf Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Fuck you bitch!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Never has man had more Psychiatrists, Psychologists, Counsellors, Advisors, Agony Aunts and Uncles, and never has society been more unstable than it is now. This is proven by how many people are on one form of medication or another for mental problems. Here in the UK, half the population is on Prozac, the other half is on suicide watch. I have been self employed for over thirty years, and have worked for all kinds of professional people, and I can say unequivocally that those just mentioned were the most unstable people I ever came across. REMEMBER HANNIBAL LECTOR was a PSYCHIATRIST. Enough said!
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
You don’t think you’re perhaps engaging in hyperbole? Just a little maybe?
If half the population is on suicide watch, does that mean the half on prozac are doing the watching?
Fool.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Hannibal Lector was a fictional character. Do you often have trouble seperating fiction from reality?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
COLIN POWELL..A SMART BOWEL MOVEMENT..THIS THING FROM SIGMUNDS RECTUM..CALLED JOHN GARTNER ..A PURE PIECE OF SHEER STUPIDITY..A WONDER IF HE CAN TALK ON HIS CELL PHONE AND CHEW HIS GUM BALLS..THATS MULITI TASKING FOR THIS TWIT…WHERE DO THESE CREATURES OF PURE STUPIDITY CRAWEL FROM? BUSHES ANUS???
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
You can correct the EDIT ERRORS yourself – and THE HEADLINE – Eye catching though!
When tired I get words the wrong way round whilst typing sometimes…!
The term CONSPIRACY THEORY is so polluted (though accurate)
Alternative Theory (ALTER – overloaded phoneme – APPLICABLE to the Grove-Gang though, NATIVE?? Just messin’!!)..
Different Theory, Unoffcial theory?
This article is fair play in the MEDIA WAR. The Psychology Today hit piece acutally made some good points (that I won’t list) but overall was unoriginal regurgitation of tired, old techniques and attitudes.
If the author’s personality was judged by his writing he’d be considered a little naive (if this was intended as a hit piece) in a socio-economical (& political sense). If the decision to interview Jones was (mostly) marketting based then not so naive…
Both parties can use the interview to help sell health products! – AND THEIR IDEALS?!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I found an article written by NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS who is an
Associated Press Writer at BREITBART. The article referes to internet addiction. More Psychologist
are refering to people who uses to much of the internet as dysfunctional…”From what we know,
many so-called `Internet addicts’ are folks who have severe depression, anxiety disorders, or
social phobic symptoms that make it hard for them to live a full, balanced life and deal face-to-
face with other people,” said Dr. Ronald Pies, professor of psychiatry at SUNY Upstate Medical
University in Syracuse, N.Y.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I argued years ago when it came out that Michael Moores “Bowling for Columbine” was both anti gun & liable to produce copycat killers. I have little respect for Moore. Every1 whined but he’s not BIASED! I argued “BUT YOU ARE – and Moore is REINFORCING YOUR BIAS” and you will be MOORE likely to persuade others (youngsters) “guns are bad”. They agreed in the end!!
MOORE copycate killings.
I’m glad Alex does not DWELL on or HIGHLIGHT the dark side to (the occasional) Conspiracy Theorist. I will, just this once as this case is in the news and VERY FITTING to this topic.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8234622.stm
COPYCAT CONSPIRACY FOILED? or 2 angry teens shouting their mouths off?? We’ll never know, the PRE-CRIME will hang, draw & QUARTER them. Better to be safe than sorry? Better to stop winding the kids up I say…
PrivateSi Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
…Better for the kids to PROTEST CALMLY, even…
PrivateSi Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Sorry for trolling, business is slow… Will we find out if they were on drugs of any kind, legal or illegal?? Only if they’re ILLEGAL no doubt!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Dude, that was so last “theory” when Prescott Bush was a nazi and so, therefore, must be George W. We now know he was actually a Satanist from the Crowley bloodline.
Next “theory”: Bush is actually a shape shifting alien lizard… wait… hang on that’s Icke… umm well I’m sure Alex will come up with something!
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
I am a Psychology Researcher and am appalled at the above Psychologist’s statements. It wouldn’t suprise me if he was actually a Psychiatrist, and not a Psychologist. A Clinical Psychologist is a much better judge of human behaviour than a Psychiatrist. If you look in the DSM-IV you will see the criteria to diagnose different disorders as outlined in the article. A borderline personality disorder is not the same as Schizotypal Personality Disorder. Schizophrenics have these classic symptoms and are obvious in their behaviour. Someone who has intelligently researched the facts and is very aware of human behaviour, especially of the effect of power and money on an individual’s behaviour is not to be put in the same category as a schizophrenic or any other paranoidal type of personality disorder, or mental disorder. It is reasonable, and rational, to draw intelligent conclusions from gathered evidence to point blame and suspicion toward men of power. It is a crime to use Psychology in such a way as to demonize people’s ideas, behaviour, and rationalizations. It is fascism. In fact it is better taught to school people on the psychological warfare that is used throughout history upon dissidents of a fascist regime. How to subvert, repress and oppress the public to one’s submission 101. I think Sal Lapinsky wrote that book didn’t he?
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Bullshit you are.
Psychiatry has far more scientific basis that psychology, for a start.
“Someone who has intelligently researched the facts and is very aware of human behaviour, especially of the effect of power and money on an individual’s behaviour is not to be put in the same category as a schizophrenic or any other paranoidal type of personality disorder, or mental disorder.”
Why not? Does the subject of the delusions change the fact they are delusions? Not at all. Jones INVENTS conspiracies where there are none. He is a nut job – or he is a cynical liar and doesn’t actually believe his own bullshit.
Either way he gets exactly what he deserves: ridicule from anyone with a brain.
PrivateSi Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
OK Karmakaze. The following argument would have to consider many other points when dealing with a broadcaster, film-maker, sales-man & advertiser BUT:
Put your shoes in the mind of an INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST, DETECTIVE etc.
Throughout an investigation evidence comes to light that alters your views. You spend your time constructing plausible scenarios, suspects and their motives. You discount some, promote others (no puns intended) until you reach your conclusion. Throughout the investagtion, by your argument the rational mind has gone through stages of PARANOIA & DELUSION rather than suspicion and viewpoint.
Why not, instead of taking a snapshot of views, consider than people here also CHANGE THEIR MIND. Why not consider its a good thing to FOLLOW THE MONEY trail and view a mass-murder promoting, arms-trade propping, big-pharma (over) supporting government as a BANE on the WORLD’S MIND!!
Psychological terms are quite powerful, also quite EXTREME. Jones has not claimed to have solved the worlds unsolved crimes he’s merely framed the possibilities using facts & conjecture.
A DELUSION is believing something TO BE TRUE despite CONCLUSIVE & IRREFUTABLE PROOF to the CONTRARY. Jones deals with CONSPIRACY theories concerning UNSOLVED CRIMEs and POSSIBLE future crimes.
Government & Industry work together behind closed doors – Transparency would be preferable but with end up with TRANCE-PARENTy instead!!
Psychiatry wields TOO MUCH POWER, it circumvents / ‘white’washes Juries all too easily. Obviously not as, frankly cruel, as it used to be in the US but you must admit, the ‘DARK ARTS’ are used for nefarious purposes and the ‘MAD SCIENCE’ that pushed psychiatry to where it is today was, like neuroscience, ‘treated’! the VICTIMS like ANIMALS.
Psychology is an UMBRELLA TERM, many sub-fields are now so tied in with neuroscience that the 2 fields are almost as 1 (yes, I know there is a lot of wishy-washy psychology though).
PrivateSi Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
APOLOGIES for ‘SPELLING’ ERRORS (due!)!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
The Psikhushka Docs. belong to the ELITE!
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Brilliant research, Paul. You really outdid yourself on this one. Gartner should be squirming. Add this article to your Top Ten list.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Oh yes, please do!
I’d love to see Watson explain to the world why he sides with Scientologists over psychologists.
Tacks Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 1:11 am
Did you even read Gartner’s hit piece? Even if you are pro psychologist (which is fine) you’d have to admit, if you’re honest, that Gartner’s article would get an F in any junior high class in the country. How can you defend such a shoddy piece of work? Let’s just assume Alex is completely wrong about everything. Gartner sure didn’t prove his case convincingly.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Not nutty at all… no sir, it all makes total logical sense.
I intend to see a heart surgeon so that he can photograph the “writing on my heart” that god put there so that I have no excuse.
It’s a bit unfair of god to expect me to cut my chest open to read it though…
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
The point here is that these psychologists and psychiatrists learn from the elite pedophiles and freaks what normal behavior is, and then they carry out violations of your rights and blame it on YOU! THEY ARE MONSTROUSLY EVIL.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
No, the point here is that Alex Jones is either a nut job or a cynical liar – everything else here stems from that.
TX Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 10:40 am
No, the point here is that you’re obsessed with Alex Jones and have too much time on your hands… get a life.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Print some of these and hand them out. I handed them out outside the Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock. I put them on windshields outside VFW’s and American Legion’s. Walk the streets and hand them out. It is concise and very effective for waking people up. It is a red pill.
http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha…..On%209.pdf
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Our youngest son was telling us about his professor at college who was laughing in the classroom while he was telling the class about shocking peoples faces with electric shock for their depression. Our son who is 21 now, walked out of the class. He said he was not going to stay around a professor who enjoyed talking about hurting others. We are proud of him and back him up all the way while he looks for a replacement class.
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
it is wonderful to learn how the shrinks have been affected by 911truth—
of course at first they got to act out —showing the regret that they werent the great thinkers–
that ordinary people had the brains—–and history will record how the ‘mental giants’ were like complacent lambs—during the 911 coverup
—911truth is not an attack on good psychology—but a good case study in people dealing sociocogically with trauma—and overcoming it with virtue—
right now the mainstream psychology magazines are not worth messing with
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
youd have to be crazy to not investigate the steven jones thermite wtc dust evidence—live…on camera
the psychologists should confront that fear in society—
-if they were actual true brave academics
a mental illness —where no one will look at the wtc evidence
——–
they just freeze up like zombies
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Hello all, if you can email five of your contacts the alarming points about healthcare below, and have them e-mail five of their contacts and so on. Let’s see how far we get get this propagated across CyberSpace.
Click the link below, and the “Email” link at the bottom of the list to send off to your contacts
http://www.repubx.com/post/The.....believe-in!.aspx
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 pm
They call them ’shrinks’ because they shrink your brain.
No thought process, no goofiness.
Duh football!
September 4th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Wasting time splitting hairs on something everyone already agrees on (9/11 being an inside job) is counterproductive.
We know NORAD trained for that exact scenario, we know numerous warning were given to the US concerning the attacks AND ignored, we know the US was preparing for an Afghan invasion BEFORE 9/11, we know there was insider trading days before the attack, and we know the investigation was a farce, and that the 9/11 commission a cover-up.
Is that not enough to go onto the next step – cutting these murderous parasites off from their host and protecting ourselves from their tyranny? Or must we continue splitting hairs over whether it was a hologram or FX? How does “exposing” that through belabored debate advance freedom?
September 4th, 2009 at 2:19 am
It’s your lie, you explain to us since you made this all up.
September 4th, 2009 at 2:23 am
What’s sad is this is the same person congratulating himself with a sock puppet account… even though he hasn’t made a valid point once in this whole page.
September 4th, 2009 at 4:01 am
Excellent article and very powerful. This is a key bit of fact that should not be forgotten.
September 4th, 2009 at 4:09 am
http://www.youtube.com/eyesonly2019
September 4th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Totalitarian/Authoritarian (Communist/Fascist) regimes misuse everything, including science, medicine, etc. to further their absolute control. Anything, banking, industry, commerce, government, etc. can and has been used to this end.
To make a broad-brush statement that the applications of Psychology are somehow different then say the application of religion to totalitarian ends is incorrect.
And to suggest that any professional suggestion that some conspiricists are pathologically paranoid is a reflection of an inherently totalitarian application of psychology is, at least, an overstatement.
It appears the author is trying to discredit an entire scientific endeavor, because a representative of that science criticized him.
September 4th, 2009 at 6:27 am
Great piece,
I’ve studied psychology and religion and found it impossible to separate the two – keep up the good work as main-steam media are letting us down big time.
klaatu Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Tom Cruise, is that you?
Alex Jones likes making the Scientologists happy.
September 4th, 2009 at 6:30 am
guiloten barry sin dumb.
September 4th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Bud what do you think?
Close bud no cigar.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Psi eulogy.
http://doctorno.blogetery.com me.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:22 am
It’s so obvious this is a carefully construed attack, just like the Michelle Malkin ‘incident’. These people always play the game with checkmate in mind. For example, not only will this ‘doctor’ provide the ‘rationale’ for smearing Alex Jones, but reacting with libel charges will would distract A. Jones from his work and possibly could be steered towards a him vs the “entire psychiatric community”.
Then the entire ex-mainstream corporate media will happily jump in and help propagate their propaganda, but rather than refer to the Malkin woman, they’ll be quoting “doctor” this and “doctor” that. They’re upping the ante, wouldn’t you say? LOL Just like blowing up a chicken coup with a missile and claiming that ‘proves’ that an enormous concrete building wasn’t hit by one.
I think the individuals whom orchestrated this know that attacking Mr Jones’ character is not just a personal affront, he’s been researching this for so long and knows more about the ruling underworld than any civilian, he’s seen the danger.
After all the ridiculous ‘conspiracy’ attacks against Mr Jones having shrinks call him crazy is not just creepy, it scares me. I wonder will these non-lethal psyche weapons the CIA were testing all those years ago be brought to bear, to try and push him over the brink?
September 4th, 2009 at 7:39 am
I don’t have time to read all of these entries but I do believe that historically the status quo treats those with differing opinions as mentally ill, especially as a society moves closer to tyranny~
September 4th, 2009 at 10:25 am
How is 70 or so years “Hundreds of years”.
So I guess my grandmother lived a life as long as the average human life expectancy, meaning that she lived for “hundreds of years.”
Time is standardized for a reason. Don’t twist it.
You’re just an inflammatory prick if you do.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:01 am
You beat the shit out of ‘em. This article is why I love infowars.com. Paul Watson, you’re a genius. You know how the brain works, how it builds neural pathways which, given enough stimulation regularly, become permanent inasmuch as a breaking of these pathways would denote a complete shift in one’s personality and thinking.
You write so many of these articles, and cite so many historical arguments across the board from dictatorship to microchips to sovereignty to automobile companies’ internal politics that you really know a bit about like, everything. Keep up the good work man.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Just like way back in high school…..there were the clicks of popular boys and girls who, because they were at the top of the social group in the school, made the rules as to what constitutes “acceptable” behavior, thinking, dress code, manners, speech, etc etc etc. If you were one of the individuals who walked to the beat of your own drum, you were considered “weird, not with it, square”, etc etc etc.
Same in the colleges and universities…..frats, sororities, clubs…..if you were not into the groupthink code, you were an outcast, or at best, ignored and made fun of.
So too, now we have “educated professional scientists” telling us what constitutes “appropriate” thinking, behavior, values, etc etc etc. Sound familiar? Witchdoctors who wield power is a scary concept. Witchdoctors who influence those at the peak levels of power is even scarier.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:26 am
For so many years the mental health industry was disrespected by their peers as “Quacks”. So what did they do in order to be taken seriously? They made up with their own mental health Diagnosis in order to have validity within the healthcare industry. This field still gets NO respect from me. They diagnose anybody & everybody with a mental health problem then prescribe psychotropic medications to the patients. I worked in mental health for a short period. The people that would come into the hospital would be ordered psychotropic meds even before the patient was even assessed. It’s a money making racket, & the Drs are rewarded for ordering the pharmaceutical industries medications. Don’t fall for this scam. I don’t say that some people don’t need psychotropics, but not before they have even been seen & assessed by a Dr.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Fascinating article. The book sounds intriguing as well. I composed a letter to Mr. Gartnir defending Alex’s position. While I don’t always 100% agree with Alex, when it comes to the important issues like questioning the official version of 9/11, Auditing the Fed and being conscious of what’s in our food, water and vaccinations, Alex is right on! I love you Alex! You are entertaining and at times enlightening.
Having all the right answers isn’t what’s important. You’re asking all the right question!!!
People that want to nitpick just don’t want to see the truth, they just want to find a reason why they shouldn’t believe the horror.
September 4th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Get ‘em AJ. Defending psychiatry is like defending a pedeophile. Let’s put these quacks back to the 19th century where they belong. How many people here have ever helped somebody A psychiatrist never has and never will. End of story